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 Post subject: My story so far...
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:28 pm 
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Hi All,


I have been lurking around this site for days, reading all your stories and decided to post my own. I look forward to getting to know as many of you as possible.


My HD story is just beginning. My mother (68 years old) was diagnosed with HD about a month ago. She had been in an aged care mental health assessment centre for three months whilst I tried to find her a suitable nursing home placement. For three months, we heard nothing from the doctors in terms of a diagnosis, until one day when they called myself, and my three brothers in for a family meeting. At that point I thought things could not get much worse. I had been frantic the last three months, trying to balance full time work, part time uni, meetings with nursing home facilities, the VCAT application for guardianship/administration of my mother, countless meetings with solicitors, financial planners….. and then the words ‘Huntington’s Disease’ were uttered.


Since that day, I’ve read up as much as possible on HD, and yes, it all seems to make sense in regards to my mother. Whilst she was diagnosed at the age of 68, I believe that she has been showing signs, at least in the emotional and cognitive categories, since I was a very small child, and I am now 28 years old. My mother was always moody, argumentative, prone to throwing tantrums and being unreasonable and selfish. As a little girl, I’d wait for my dad to come home from work to play with me and read to me, as my mother never seemed to be ‘bothered’ with anything. She could never focus on anything, wouldn’t read anything. I always knew there was something wrong with her, but she refused to see doctors and insisted she was fine and would scream the house down if anyone suggested otherwise. My dad passed away about four years ago (heart problems). I had already moved out. My mother had stopped cooking for the family when I was in high school and stopped washing our clothes soon after. With my dad no longer around, no house work got done, and the house was in a general state of disrepair. My mother then decided to stop showering, declaring that the taps in the house did not work, and lived off nothing but bread and water. By the time she was admitted to the aged care mental health unit, she had not showered in months. Her moods and behaviours became even worse and delusions more frequent. I was always furious with her, why couldn’t she take care of herself? Didn’t she know how much better she’d feel if she made herself something nice to eat, took a shower, did her hair? All this time I thought she was just horrible, lazy selfish and put on this planet to make my life miserable, and all this while she had a disease…..


My mother has inherited the Huntingdon’s gene from her father. He died when my mother was a teenager. My grandmother, who is 98 years old and in perfect mental health, has advised that he died from a stroke. She has never mentioned anything about uncontrolled movements, or problem behaviours, and I can only believe that he simply died too young (approx 48) for him to present any HD symptoms. My grandmother also says that my mother displayed problem behaviours from a very young age, so perhaps this is not only HD at work…..My mother, at this stage, displays very little chorea – only a tiny twitch in the face that is barely noticeable.


As soon as I found out about HD and what it means for myself, and my three brothers, I decided to get tested. I have already given my blood and had one counselling session and I am simply waiting on the results and have been told it will be early next year. As I said before, I am 28 years old, and I have always dreamed about having a family of my own, particularly as my own family life has never been so great. I need to know whether I am HD positive to make some informed choices about my future and whether that future should involve children. I am also doing my Masters in Writing and Literature at the moment and had plans on becoming an academic …however, now I must accept that I might have a very short-lived career. I have a partner who is loving and supportive and who I cannot imagine life without. We have barely left each others’ side in the last 10 years. He is convinced I don’t have the gene, but I think he is in denial and is making this judgement based on the way I am now, and the way my mother is, and the vast difference between us. He is a wonderful person and deserves so much more than to be a carer for someone with HD and miss out on a family life. My parents had a dreadful marriage and I would hate to put someone else through what my mother put my dad through.


My brothers are all in their mid to late 40’s. The age difference is due to the fact that I am from my mother’s second marriage. My middle brother has been tested and wants the results yesterday! He has a very high-level corporate job and has been working so hard to set himself up for an active retirement, and feels it will all be a waste if he starts to develop HD and he won’t ever be able to sit back and just enjoy. If he has the gene, he is going to scale down his workload and take more holidays… He’s already in his late 40’s and is displaying no symptoms, so I feel very confident for him. My oldest brother also did the blood test, but has not progressed with the counselling session, as far as I know. He is starting to stress and believes he is showing symptoms, with shaking and balance, and anger issues, but we have reminded him that those could also be the result of drinking too much … and he is becoming an increasingly heavy drinker. The youngest brother is somewhat estranged from the family. He knows about the HD in our family but has decided not to be tested for the moment as he is too busy. He is a nurse, so it surprises me greatly that he would take this tack.


Whilst I wait for 2008 to come to an end, I think about HD on and off. Sometimes I think I can’t possibly have it, other times I am nearly in tears thinking about how one day I might not be able to read a book, my life’s greatest joy, or write an essay, or even watch TV. I ‘symptom-watch’ constantly … Did I forget something today? Have I dropped anything? Am I acting like my mother in any way, shape or form? I have told no one about the HD in my family and am still deciding which friends and colleagues I feel comfortable in telling. I am so grateful for this site as it makes me realise that I am not alone. Our stories are all so different, yet they are the same. By listening to each other, we can approach an understanding….


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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:06 pm 
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Hi there and welcome to this forum. You are so right in saying we have different stories, but the plot is still the same! We found out my Dad had HD nearly 3 years ago. I think the results in the new year is a strategy to minimise suicides over the Christmas holidays - they can be depressing enough without HD. In those 3 years, I have scrounged around every internet site and book about HD as possible, and I do have to warn you, some are very scary and pessimistic. Like you, I wanted to plan my life although by the time we knew anything about HD, we all had children of our own. Fortunately I tested negative but I was so sure I had symptoms, and still do! 2 of my siblings weren't so lucky and one does not want to be tested. HD came from my Grandfather, although he died of a stroke in his late 70's with emotional issues but no physical symptoms. We all thought he was just an evil man. Dad too has the emotional issues and very little chorea, although we thought we suffered from 'domestic violence'.

The HD diagnosis has given us a scaffold of understanding. We have spent the past 3 years travelling backwards through all of our memories and trying to dissect what was HD and what was just Dad. In the end, it is a futile experience really as they are one and the same. I now try to err on the side of compassion and blame HD for most of it. This has eventually enabled me to forgive him (and my siblings) of some past issues, and move on.

Whether or not you test positive (and I do hope you are negative) you will still have to deal with HD issues every day of your life. Being negative isn't a free pass to a 'normal' life, you still have to watch your loved ones deteriorate and symptom hunt with those that don't wish to be tested. As I am the only one free from the mutation, I am heavily relied on for support and that is a heavy load to carry on your own.

If you love literature, I would start a journal now of your HD testing journey. There are not many good books about HD and if you eventually decided to publish it, it would certainly help others understand the impact on families. I would recommend you read 'Learning to Live with Huntington's' and 'Portraits of Huntington's'. They are both fairly positive but informative without being too scary. I would also get onto the HDAC website. Their forum is excellent with many more members so you get a wide variety of responses (the good, the bad and the ugly!) There is a list of supplements that are recommended for people at risk or HD+ and exercise suggestions, drug trial updates and so on. I'm not knocking this website in the slightest, I just enjoy interacting with both!

As for having children, there are medical procedures in place that can implant HD- embryo's to ensure your children are safe. I know there are so many issues surrounding raising children with a HD parent, but don't discount having a family because of your own bad childhood. You have the power of knowledge and know how it impacts on families, so you can plan for it in advance. If you take supplements and anti-oxidants, keep active and other preventative measures you can still expect to have a long and healthy life, full of joy AND children. They already have very effective treatments for many HD symptoms, and by the time you develop symptoms yourself there could well be a 'cure'. It would be very sad if all HD+ people stopped enjoying life now because of their fear of tomorrow. By all means ensure your children don't carry the gene, but you can still enjoy the dream of being a mother!

Stay positive and keep us informed about how you get on!


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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:38 pm 
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Great advice from Shy there....

I can relate to your retracing steps back in time to understand how much HD was part of your Mum's behavior and personalioty...we have done that with my MIL as well. Looking back now we see so clearly the traits of HD in so many of her behaviors. Had we known we would have cut her some more slack. I just thought she was a bitch! Image

I'm glad you found us here and were able to share your thoughts with us.
Have you tried WeAreHD as well? It's an American site that has a lovely family feel to it. There are many young people with JHD, older ones with later onset, carers, 'at riskers', family, friends and supporters on there too. This site is great, but sadly not well supported by the HD community in Australia. It's all about the numbers and there are so many more HD patients in the U.S.

We hope you can continue to share your journey with us...it is very comforting to know we are not travelling this road alone. Especially when family are not there for you, your HD family is always there to offer a word of support. They have been a God-send to me.
Keep in touch...my very best wishes to you. Image

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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:53 pm 
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Thanks to you both for your advice and support....

At the moment my mother is in a mainstream nursing home - she was finally admitted to one last week. It seems very nice, but my concern is that they won't know how to deal with a HD resident, and she will not benefit from the social activities they offer. I'm worried that they will try to get her to take up the opportunities they offer for outings, activities, etc, but when she refuses or gets difficult, they will simply stop asking and she will become lost in the system. My brother is going to take her to see a HD specialist doctor and ensure at least her medications are correct. It's a huge relief that she is in a nice clean home, with all her meals prepared and laundry taken care of, etc. It definitely makes me sleep easier at night.

Thankyou for your direction re further websites and books I can take a look at. I will see if I can take those two books Shy mentioned out of the library for some light holiday reading. I like reading testimonials, people's experiences and family situations...I'm afraid I get too lost (bored) with the scientific jargon.... but at least I know what a CAG repeat is and where I want mine to be......

For a disease that can be traced back to the Middle Ages, HD is a great mystery still, in so many ways, there are still no answers ... no givens.

I look forward to learning more....


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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:53 pm 
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Hi there, I just typed up a reply but our internet and power went out with this lightning storm we are having at the moment. Luckily I'm on a laptop with wireless modem! I can't remember the words that I wrote but I can pretend they were well thought and helpful!!! Honest!

I live in Brisbane and if you live nearby you are welcome to borrow my books. I also have Jimmy Pollards book "Hurry Up and Wait: A cognitive care companion for mid to late stages of Huntingtons". He presented at the Adelaide conference and was brilliant. I have a copy of his powerpoint presentation that I can email you, or I think if you scroll back through this forum you will find his own discussion and links to his presentation and books. Highly recomended to help the staff at the nursing home to know how it feels to have HD and understand them better, and help them more effectively.

If you have further questions or just want a chat, feel free, I'm normally hanging around my computer!


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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:01 pm 
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Hi Shy,

I live in Melbourne, so unfortunately can't raid your library. I will look for Jimmy Pollard's presentation on this site or just google it.... I just remembered something rather ironic earlier today.... you mentioned that I should start keeping a journal about my HD experiences....Well, as it happens I did... without realising it.
For uni, I submitted a personal piece for assessment. It was a series of journal entries spanning the week my dad passed away, and detailing my mother's behaviours during that week....I wrote this about a month before I knew my mother had Huntingtons.....and my lecturer said the piece would have been better if I could have made the mother character 'more believable'. I was agast, because it was 100% the truth......he just couldn't believe that someone would says the things she said.....

I wrote that piece with a heavy heart, grieving for the loss of my relationship with my father, and the one I never got to have with my mother....Would I write it differently now? Am I any the wiser now? The mind boggles...

Anyway, maybe one day I will post it up here for people to read if they are interested.

Have a good night.


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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:18 pm 
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Hey cbar,

Your writing skills would be a wonderful way of sharing your journey with HD. Your original post was written beautifully. We would love you to post your journal at some stage on here...as long as your comfortable with it. Who knows one day you might write a book!

Alot of your fears about the nursing home i can relate to, they are not the perfect environments for people with HD, far from it. I guess its what we have though so its kinda making them work as much as possible, which is not always easy...but there are things that can help. Jimmys books are great, it might be worth giving them to the nursing home as well. Sometime there are workers who will train staff etc in HD. Have you had much contact with the association in Melbourne. They might be able to make some suggestions too. Its a hard situation to be in, i guess the other thing thats required (which im sure you already well and truly know!) is lots of advocating on behalf of the person with HD! Which is a huge job. I wish you all the best with your testing, youve had to come to terms with a lot in a short period of time...i hope the forum can offer you something in the next chapter to your storyImage

Welcome to the forum!
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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:27 pm 
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Hi there, I think writing a journal is great because it is so personal. If you were writing for someone else, you would edit it to make it more entertaining, or more realistic, or more dramatic or linguistically correct. A journal though you are only writing for yourself, for self reflection and personal development. You write from the heart not caring about grammar or style or a target audience. It doesn't have to make sense and it doesn't have to sound morally or ethically correct. You can write your deepest, darkest thoughts, ones that you wouldn't dare admit to anyone, because you know you are safe in your own literary world. Should you decide to publish it at a later date is your choice, and it would certainly make great reading because of its raw emotional content, but that should not be the purpose of the journal writing to begin with, or that raw emotion will not flow out onto the paper the same, and will not have the same therapeaudic benefits. Reading back through a journal a year later, or several years later, gives you an objective look at where you were and how far you have travelled, not always in the right direction! It sounds like the article you wrote for assessment creates a great baseline to evaluate you emotions and journey later down the path.

As for reading other books, ask your local HD center if they have a loan system. They will often have a few copies of most books written about HD and can recommend some others to you. If they don't have one set up, perhaps that would be a good cause to raise funds for. Good information is power and we need as much of it as we can to stay calm and positive in the face of HD. Have you had a chance to read Michelle's article in the Maria Claire magazine? She now has a PDF link to it on this forum. It's heartwarming stuff!

Take care, Shy


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:34 pm 
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Yes, I did get a chance to read Michelle's Marie Claire article - it certainly tugged at the heart strings, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading it and am happy that HD got some 'air-time' in a mainstream publication like Marie Claire.

I found out from the genetic counsellor that I'm to go to one more counselling/information session (with my partner) and I then should be able to get the results on the 15th Jan. I'm scared. I know once I've got the result then there's no going back. I'm trying to prepare myself for either outcome, running the scenarios through my head about how it will play out. I wish I could stop thinking about it but I can't. I find myself busy doing something, and will temporarily forget about HD, but its only temporary, it just keeps coming back into my head. I keep wishing that the 15th of Jan would hurry up, but then I think what if I'm wishing the last few weeks where everything is still OK away?

I've told no one about the HD in the family yet. Only those of us 'at risk' in the family and my partner know about it. My partner's family, my close friends, no one else has been told yet. We haven't told our Nanna (my mum's non-HD parent) about it as she is 98 years old and does not need the stress. Our mum doesn't even know she has it. We can't even think how to begin to explain it to her, when you can barely hold a conversation with her on the most mundane matters. We figure as long as she takes her medications and is being looked after and is relatively happy, then telling her is not going to make a difference.

In the meantime, I'm counting down the days til the 15th of Jan, even though I know its futile to do so, and may be to my detriment. I'm just going to have to somehow make it though Christmas and New Years with a smile on my face. I've got a month off work (not my choice - company closing to try and save on costs) so I'll have plenty of time to read and reflect.

I hope everyone here has a wonderful Christmas and New Year, and if anyone, like me is awaiting results in the New Year, please drop me a line and let me know how its going for you.


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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:36 am 
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Hiya, welcome!


If you are looking for non scientific reading, you could also consider a book called Kaleidoscope. It was published 18 months ago by the Vic Association. They asked any family members who wanted to write a piece on any aspect of their Hd journey to submit and they published about 20-30 short pieces. Everyone from gene positive, to carers and partners, to kids to symptomatic folks. I think its about $20 (of which is a donation anyway) and they could send you a copy. You maybe in contact with them anyway with your mum....


My sister and I have been through gene testing in Melbourne and I agree it is so very complicated and brain overload really.

Although it sounds so simplistic for me to say when you are right in the middle of it, for me once the dust settled after testing positive, the big thing I learned was that nothing really changed. Yes I got the test results.....and then.......well nothing. I still woke up, had to work, had my friends, my family, went on holidays. Testing positive changed nothing about my life other than being aware of something more. For me I felt like if I came back positive that life would be over but when it did, life didn't end. I'm 30, I got tested over 10 years ago now and the only thing that I have changed slightly is I am a bit more daring in trying new things, no one who knows me would describ me as lazy!. I met a girl, got married, have a great job, renovated my house. Everything my sister, who tested negative, went through too (well except the meeting a girl thing, you know what I mean). My wife is even pregnant which is freaking me out on a whole other non Hd level now.Image

I am not trying to say that all of your feelings right now aren't valid, they are, I definately had the same ones as you and they still occassionally come and go. I am trying to say that Hd is not the defining thing in your life - it's your partner, your family, your work, your friends, your hobbies. No matter what the result, it is these things that will be your life. Yes Hd will be a constant, but it wont be the key decision maker. This is a really tough time and its right to think about the what if's, but try if you can, to think of Hd as just one part of a whole lot of stuff which make up you.

Good luck for the 15th, looking forward to talking with you more.

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 Post subject: Re: My story so far...
PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:22 am 
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cbar,

I just wanted to say 'hi' and best wishes for your results. It can be such a stressful time while you wait, going through all the 'what ifs?' Not feeling free to discuss it with the majority of your relatives and friends is also difficult.

One of the reasons I went through testing is I decided not knowing was worse than knowing. That was over three years ago, and I'm still happy I went through the process.

I'm thinking of you as you wait,

Sal


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[LEFT][FONT=Arial Black][COLOR=#7030a0][SIZE=120]Hi - I joined a couple of months ago - but felt a bit old to be on the forum (I turned 60 in June). I can relate to what everyone says about the surprise of finding out about HD in the family and also the anxious wait for the results. Both my parents are dead - but my mum's sister was diagnosed in 2006 with HD (she's now 77, and her brother is 64 and they are both symptomatic with double HD+) - both their parents had HD, so they have a double HD gene and obviously passed on one HD+ gene to their children. My mum must also have been HD+ as I also tested positive (I got tested mainly to find out for my children who are 28 and 27 next year). When my children got their results, we also found out that their father was HD+ as my daughter has a double HD+ gene (like my maternal aunt and uncle), and my son inherited his father's HD+ gene. In 2006 the only thing I was obsessed with was finding out as much as possible about HD. And I have to agree - it is not really encouraging. The only one in my extended family not to be HD+ was my brother - in all, 14 of 15 of us, aged over 18, were HD+, only one escaped (my brother), which rather blew the statistics of 50/50 chance out of the water for us. Freaky that my maternal grandparents were both HD+, plus me and my husband - what are the odds?? (7-10 out of 100,000? - I don't think so!). It's not my sole focus now, and I look forward to treatment and a cure in the future - plus hope for my children that advances in genetic testing with IVF will have successful outcomes for them if they choose to have children. It was a shock to me that we knew nothing about this until 2006 as family members had died of different causes - so I feel lucky in that regard when I read that others have had many years of caring for parents and partners, not to mention anxiety about their own status and symptoms. I wish all of you the best for 2009 and beyond - we can only hope that research provides answers asap. It's certainly a wake-up call that life is very precious and fragile.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][/LEFT]


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:16 am 
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Hi Sonnie,

I'm glad you posted - this is a great place for support Image

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Hi Sal - thanks for commenting. Michelle suggested I post my story in the forum when I first joined. I did type it in - but then it disappeared. So - I needed Christmas Day to give it another go. Times like Christmas remind me of Christmases past when we were blissfully unaware of HD and its impact.
Reading all your posts I realised that you are all very supportive of one another's situations. The topic is one that you generally cannot tell friends (or extended family members from different non-HD branches of the family) about - because of the need to maintain privacy and confidentiality about other family members HD status as well as your own.
So this is a good place to discuss things with people who are going through various situations related to HD.
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Thanks to all for your support. I really appreciate it. Sonnie, at 60, you are definitely not too old to be on this forum, your story is worth telling and you are so right in that this has been a huge wake up call as to how fragile and precious life is. I am really glad to hear from people who are actually HD+, as well as the carers of people with HD and people who have tested negative.
Christmas was strange this year. It's the first one with the unwelcome guest of HD, although it obviously has been present for many years without our knowing about it.
My mum only wanted to stay at our place for a couple of hours before begging me to take her back to the nursing home. Normally, she can't stay long enough and would kick a fuss at the thought of returning home. She did not really engage in much conversation, or eat very much, but downed about 4 coffees in the space of two hours. I think her medication is making her zombie-like, and we are taking her to a HD specialist early in the New Year - maybe he can adjust her meds. One of my brothers, who is a nurse said the zombie-like state is far better than what we would normally be dealing with and that if I took her off medication, I would quickly be begging to put her back on!
In the meantime, I'm counting down til the day I get my results. I'm already cursing myself for wishing away the days, which might be the last days I have where everything is still 'OK'.


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